Part 907bs – Brunhammer Schwimmer – 1842 Marriage Registration Laurent Bruhammer and Marie Anne Schwimmer

21 August 2017

Good Day,

In my effort to find out whether Marie Anne Schwimmer is related to Marie Anne Schwimmer I am working through the discovery, transcription, and translation of possibly relevant documents.

The following is the 31 December 1842 Civil Marriage Registration of 3-times Great-Granduncle Laurent Bruhammer and his wife Marie Anne Schwimmer which is based, I believe, on the required practices began on the 25th of September 1842.

1. Sunday, 25th September 1842, 11:00 am
2. Sunday, 2nd October 1842, 11:00 am
3. Wednesday, 5th October 1842, 8:00 am
4. Saturday, 31st October 1842, 5:00 pm


And based on my limited understanding I would gander to guess that 3-times Great-Granduncle Laurent Brunhammer and his new wife were married on 5 October 1842. The prior 2 dates may have been the posting of the bans and intention of marriage. The 31st of December may have been the closing of the books/registers for 1842.


My attempted transcription –

No. 5Bruhammer LaurentetSchwimmer M. Anne.

L'an dix huit cent quarante deux, le cinq Octobre à huit heure de matin par devantnous Joseph Foltzer, maire et officier de l'état civil de la commune de Hochstatt,Canton d'Altkirch, Départment de Haut Rhin sont comparus Laurent Bruhammer,ouvrier de fabrique, âgé de vingt-neuf ans, né le deux août du huit cent trieze etdomicilié en ce lieu, majeur, fils des conjoints Sébastien Bruhammer, charpentier,âgé de soixante ans et Marguerite Ruess, sans état, âgée de soixante-unans, les deux domiciliés en ce lieu, à ce présents et consentants d'une part, etDemoiselle Marie Anne Schwimmer, sans état, âgée de vingt-six ans, née letrente Avril dix huit cent seize et domiciliée en ce lieu, majeure, fille des conjointsAntoine Schwimmer, journalier, âgé de soixante ans, domicilié en ce lieu, à ceprésent et consentant, et feue Marie Ann Schlienger, décédée en ce lieu levingt-un août dix huit cent vingt-neuf, d’autre part, lesquels nous ont requisde procéder à la célébration du mariage projeté entre eux et dont les publicationont été faites en cette commune, devant la principale porte d'entrée de la maisoncommune, les Dimanches vingt-cinq Septembre dernier et deux de ce mois, chaquefois à onze heures de matin, aucune opposition au dit mariage ne nous ayantété signifée, faisant droit à leur requisition, après avoit donné lecture du chapitresix du titre de code civil, intitulé de mariage, et des piècer anneaier auprésent acte qui ont préalablement paraphéis par nous et les futurs conjointsnous avons demandé au futur époux et à la future épouse s'ils voulent seprendre pour mari et pour femme, chacun d'aux ayant répondu séparémentet affirmativement nous déclarons au nom de la loi, que Laurent Bruhammer etla Demoiselle Marie Anne Schwimmer, sont unis par le mariage qui a étépubliquement célébré dans la maison commune de quoi nous avons dressé acteen présence de Sébastien Bruhammer, ouvrier de fabrique, âgé de vingt-deuxans, frère de la nouvelle épouse, de Jean Igersheim, ouvrier de fabrique, âgé detrente-trois ans beaufrère de la nouvelle épouse, de Jean Deyber, cultivateurâgé de cinquante-deux ans et a D'Ignace Müller, ex-Instituteur, âgé de soixante-douze ans, les deux dernier non parents des nouveaux époux, les quatre –Domiciliés en ce lieu, lesquels, après qu'il leur en a éte'donné lecture, toutsigné avec nous et lest partie contractanter.

Le présent registre contenant cinq actes de mariage a été clos et arrêté par nous soussigné,Joseph Foltzer, maire et officier de l'état civil de la commune de Hochstatt, ce jourd'hui trente-un Décembre dix huit cent quarante-deux, à cinq heures de soir.

FoltzerMaire

And the translation, give or take –

No. 5
Bruhammer Laurent
and
Schwimmer M. Anne.


In the year eighteen hundred and forty-two, on October 5 at eight in the morning before us Joseph Foltzer, mayor and registrar of the municipality of Hochstatt, Canton of Altkirch, Department of Haut Rhin, appeared Laurent Bruhammer , A twenty-nine-year-old factory worker, born on August 2 of the eight hundred and thirteen and domiciled in this place, major, son of the spouses Sébastien Bruhammer, carpenter, aged sixty and Marguerite Ruess, stateless, aged sixty one-year-olds, both domiciled at this place, to this present and consenting on the one hand, and Miss Marie Anne Schwimmer, stateless, twenty-six years old, born on the thirtieth of April eighteen hundred and sixteen and domiciled in this place , Major, daughter of the spouses Antoine Schwimmer, a day laborer, aged sixty, domiciled there, to this present and consenting, and the late Marie Ann Schlienger, who died there on August 21st, On the other hand, which required us to proceed to the celebration of the marriage projected between them, and the publication of which was made in this commune, in front of the principal entrance to the common house, on the twenty-fifth of last September and two of this month, each time at eleven o'clock In the morning, no opposition to the said marriage having been served to us, granting their requisition, after having read chapter six of the civil code title, titled marriage, and the annexes to the present act, which have previously initialled by us And the future spouses we have asked the future spouse and the future wife if they want to take themselves as husband and wife, each of them having answered separately and affirmatively we declare in the name of the law that Laurent Bruhammer and the Miss Marie Anne Schwimmer, are united by the marriage which was publicly celebrated in the common house of which we made an act in the presence of Sébastien Bruhammer, factory worker, Aged twenty-two, brother of the new wife, of Jean Igersheim, a factory worker, thirty-three years old, a brother of the new wife, of Jean Deyber, a farmer aged fifty-two, Ignatius Müller, ex-Teacher, seventy-two years of age, the last two nonparents of the new spouses, the four - Domiciled in this place, who, after having been read to them, signed everything with us and The contracting party.

The present register containing five acts of marriage has been closed and arrested by us, Joseph Foltzer, the mayor and civil registrar of the commune of Hochstatt, this thirty-one-day December 18, 1942, At five o'clock in the evening.

Foltzer
Mayor


Something to note in this page of registration, the surname for GGG-Granduncle Laurent is entered as "Bruhammer" whereas the signatures appear to read as "Brunhammer".


Just my observations.

And now onto another piece of evidence.

The genealogy research and search for ancestors and descendants continue.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, without having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com if you would like to receive an invite to the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 906bs – Brunhammer Schwimmer – Which GGG-Grandaunt Marie Anne (née Schwimmer) Brunhammer is Which?

14 August 2017

Good Day,

And what do you do when two brothers, two GGG-Granduncles marry wives who both have the same name?

That’s right, GGG-Granduncle Laurent Brunhammer (born 2 Aug 1813, Hochstatt) and his younger brother Sébastien Brunhammer (born 8 May 1820, Hochstatt) both married wives named Marie Anne Schwimmer. And both couples decided to have children around the same time.

This is where it becomes confusing, and this is where I must carefully sift through the Birth Registrations to make sure who is who and who belongs to whom.


And it becomes more confusing when their elder brother GGG-Grandfather Joseph Brunhammer has three (3) wives; GGG-Grandmother Catherine (née Ganzer), and step-GGG-Grandmother Marie Anne (née Gugenberger), and step-GGG-Grandmother Sophie (née Berger). And so, there are children also arriving because of two of these marriages.

All I can imagine is the Registrar’s face and comments when a Brunhammer walks through the door of his office to register a new Brunhammer.

Anyway it took me sometime today to determine who is who, and who belongs to who.

First, all three, GGG-Grandfather Joseph and his two brothers GGG-Granduncle Laurent and GGG-Granduncle Sébastien were sons of GGGG-Grandfather Sébastien and Marguerite (née Ruess) Brunhammer. To date and with the proper documentation I have figured out that GGG-Granduncle Laurent Brunhammer (born 1813) married the Marie Anne Schwimmer (born about 1816) whose parents where Antoine Schwimmer (born about 1781) and Marie Anne Schlienger (died about 1829). GGG-Granduncle Sébastien (born 1820) married the other Marie Anne Schwimmer (born about 1820) whose parents were Michel Schwimmer (born about 1787) and Marie Anne Münch (born about 1787).

And yes, GGGG-Grandparents Sébastien and Marguerite (née Ruess) Brunhammer also had 4 daughters, that to date I have been able to find documentation regarding their births. To top it all the three brothers may have had at least 22 offspring. (And AH, you thought there were a great amount of Dohertys…)

Here is the roll call –

GGGG-Grandfather Sébastien Brunhammer (also spelled Bruhammer, Bruhamer and Brunhamer)
GGGG-Grandmother Marguerite Ruess

Joseph Brunhammer and Catherine Ganzer – GGG-Grandparents
      > Carl Brunhammer – GG-Granduncle
      > Catherine Brunhammer – GG-Grandaunt
      > Jean Brunhammer – GG-Granduncle
      > Jacques (Jacob) Brunhammer – GG-Grandfather
      > Joseph Alexandre Brunhammer – GG-Granduncle
      > Henri Laurent Brunhammer – GG-Granduncle
      > Jean Charles Brunhammer – GG-Granduncle

Joseph Brunhammer and Marie Ann Gugenberger – GGG-Grandfather and 2nd Wife

Joseph Brunhammer and Sophie Berger – GGG-Grandfather and 3rd Wife
      > Albert Eugène Brunhammer – ½ GG-Granduncle
      > Joseph Albert Brunhammer – ½ GG-Granduncle
      > Eugène Brunhammer – ½ GG-Granduncle

Agnes Brunhammer – GGG-Grandaunt

Laurent Brunhammer and Marie Anne Schwimmer – GGG-Granduncle and GGG-Grandaunt
     > Sixte Laurent Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Madelaine Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Thérèse Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Marie Anne Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Josephine Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Catherine Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed

Therresse Brunhammer – GGG-Grandaunt

Magdeline Brunhammer – GGG-Grandaunt

Sébastien Brunhammer and Marie Anne Schwimmer – GGG-Granduncle and GGG-Grandaunt
     > Joseph Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed
     > Aloïse Brunhammer – 1st Cousin 4-times removed

Marguerite Brunhammer – GGG-Grandaunt

And the genealogy research and search for ancestors and descendants continue.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, WITHOUT having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com if you would like to receive an invite to the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 905bd – Brunhammer Doherty – Finally - 1st of April 1944

07 August 2017

Good Afternoon,

We’ve been looking for this documentation for some time now; at least for more than 10 years.

According to the Albuquerque Journal, April 1, 1944, on Page 7, “107 Licenses Issued”



“Total of 107 marriage licenses were issued by the county clerk’s office during March, records revealed Friday. This compares with 112 last month and 133 for March of 1943.”

And guess what arrived in the mail today?

Marriage License No. 21469, dated March 31st, 1944.

Also included were the Application For Marriage License, dated 31 March 1944 and the Marriage Certificate, recorded 5th April 1944.

Guess what?


The Marriage Certificate for 1st of April 1944 for Myrtle Frances Doherty and Eugene John Brunhammer. The ceremony, in accordance with the laws of the State of New Mexico, was performed at the Post Chapel, Kirkland Field, New Mexico by the Chaplain William J. Bennett. The Witnesses were Mrs. Davis Harris and Sgt. Harold L. Harris.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, WITHOUT having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 904bd – Brunhammer Doherty – Who was GG-Grandaunt Sarah E. Pierce?

Good Day,

Sometimes it is possible to follow a wrong lead while researching an ancestry line.

I have been researching Great-Great-Grandaunt Sarah E. Pierce. She was born 14 July 1841 in Maryland. One Sarah E. Pierce I discovered married Samuel Mimm 27 May 1869 in Chester, Pennsylvania. GG-Grandaunt Sarah, the Sarah Mimm died in 1909 in Avondale, Chester, Pennsylvania.

1869 - The Village Record

Her parents were GGG-Grandparents William H. and Sarah P. (née Fuller) Pierce. GG-Grandaunt Sarah E. was one of their 11 children.

Of course, I can follow their line and descendants. The issue is there are a couple of other Sarah E. Pierces in my research who may or may not be one and the same.



The line I am referring to may or may not be correct. Hopefully, someone may be able to provide some verifiable proof.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, WITHOUT having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 903bk – Brunhammer Katz – Who is Charles Custer? Was he Great-Grand-Uncle Charles Brunhammer?

16 July 2017

Good Day,

"Who was Charles Custer?" Was he Great-Grand-Uncle Charles Brunhammer? Was he GG-Grandparents Jacques (aka Jacob) and Marie (aka Marie née Katz) Brunhammer's eldest son?

According to the Board for Certification of GenealogistsSkill building: Proof Arguments - Very often the process of writing a proof argument will reveal to us weaknesses in evidence and logic where additional research is required. When reasonably exhaustive research, careful analysis, and correlation of evidence lead to a sound genealogical conclusion, a proof argument should be constructed to defend it. (Wikipedia)

Here is some of the evidence.

1. Based on the Autosomal DNA test – Andy Brunhammer and WQ are related, per the Ancestry.com testing to the “Possible range: 4th – 6th cousins”.

2. In a discussion with WQ it was stated “that my family lore was that my great grandmother's surname by birth was Custer - the same great grandmother through which I'm related to the Brunhammers? I still say, speculatively, that Charles Brunhammer used Custer as an alias for whatever reason(s).

1905 New Jersey State Census

3. In the 1905 New Jersey State CensusMary Brunhamer and Charles Brunhamer” are listed at 905 Jersey Ave., Gloucester, Camden, New Jersey. Mary and Charles are listed at being born in May 1841 and November 1862, respectively.


4. Per the 1920 US Census for Philadelphia City, Pennsylvania GG-Grandmother Marie (née Katz) Brunhammer is listed as “Mary Brunhamer – Boarder – Age:79 – Place of Birth: France”.

1920 US Federal Census, Philadelphia, PA

5. Also at the same house at 1679 North 56th Street is one “Charles Custer – Boarder – Age:55 – Place of Birth: France”.

6. Both Mary Brunhamer and Charles Custer list on the same 1920 US Census as their “Year of immigration to the United States” as “1876” and their “Year of naturalization” as “1890”.

1922 Certificate of Death -
Mary Brunhammer

7. On Mary Brunhammer’s Certificate of Death, Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, File No. 109606, dated 11 December 1922, “Charles Custer” is listed as the Informant. His address is included as “245 S 3 St. Glouster, NJ.

8. Mary Brunhammer’s “Place of Death” is listed as “1679 N. 56th St.” in Philadelphia. This is the same address that she and Charles Custer are boarding at per the 1920 US Federal Census.


Linked  1920 US Census versus 1922 Certificate of Death

9. Included in Great-Great-Grandparents Marie Katz’s and Jacques Brunhammer’s 1867 Marriage Registration is the following paragraph -

“Et aussitôt les nouveaux époux, nous ont déclaré qu’il est né d’un enfant, du sexe masculine, inscrit aux les régistrés d l’État civil de Soultz (Haut-Rhin) en daté du quinze novembre mil huit cent soixante-deux, sous les nom et prénom de Katz Charles, lequel ils reconnaissent pour leur fils, voulant que la présente déclaration légitime sa naissance. De toute quoi nous avons dressé le présente acte en présence de 1re, Ambroise Roos, coutre-mâitre de fabrique, agé de trente-six ans, 2ieme, Antoine Doger, fondeur, agé de trente-neuf ands, 3ieme, Rodlolphe Gôtz, tailleur d'habite, agé de trente-neuf ans, et 4ieme, Georges Lux, cordonnier, agé de trente-un ans, les quatre domiciliés ã Thann, non parens ni alliés des contraitanté(?), de moins choisis par les nouvèaux épouix qui ont signé avec eus, le père de l'époux, la mère de l'épouse et nous après lecture faite de présente acte.”
1867 Marriage Registration,
Soultz, Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France
Jacques Brunhammer and Marie Katz

Translated, (as best as I can) –

“And immediately the new spouses told us that he was born of a child of the male sex registered in the registrars of the Civil State of Soultz (Haut-Rhin) dated the fifteenth of November one thousand eight hundred and sixty-two, Under the name and first name of Katz Charles, which they recognize for their son, wanting that the present declaration legitimizes its birth. From all of which we have drawn up the present deed in the presence of 1st Ambroise Roos, factory-mate, aged thirty-six, second, Antoine Doger, founder, aged thirty-nine, third, Rodolphe Gotz, tailor Georges Lux, a shoemaker, who was thirty-one years of age, the four domiciled in Thann, who were neither parents nor allies of the contraitanté, less chosen by the new spouses who had signed with The father of the husband, the mother of the wife and us after reading this act.”

10. In 1876 the Amerique Manifest, both Marie Brunhammer and 6 of her children are included when they arrived at New York; and then moved on to Philadelphia. Charles is listed as the eldest of the children who made the voyage across the Atlantic.



Within all the documents that I have been able to gather both GG-Grandmother Marie (aka Mary) Brunhammer’s and Great-Grand-Uncle Charles Brunhammer’s and/or Custer’s ages correspond closely to the possibility of their given birth years. Is it possible that Great-Grand-Uncle Charles did change his surname for some period?

In the 1905 New Jersey State CensusCharles Brunhamer” is indicated as “M” which stands for “Married”. In the 1920 United State Census for Philadelphia “Charles Custer” is listed as “Div”, standing for “Divorced”.

With these facts and Charles Custer being the "Informant" on Great-Great-Grandmother Mary Brunhammer's Death Certificate, I would tender to say that there is a possibility that Charles Custer must be Charles Brunhammer.

And there are some more documents to search for in order to find to help with the question “Who is Charles Custer?”

These include if they exist:

1. 1910 United States Census showing either Charles Brunhammer or Charles Custer
2. A Marriage Registration for Charles Brunhammer
3. A Divorce decree for Charles Brunhammer or Charles Custer
4. A Death Registration for Charles Brunhammer or Charles Custer

And these documents could have been completed in either of New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, or even Delaware.

Oh yeah, I just located the actual registration 1862 Birth Registration in Soultz, France for Charles Katz? Stay tuned for my posting on A Genealogy Hunt.

Katz, Brunhammer, Custer - “Who is Charles Custer?” I wonder if he was ever been acquainted with Ayn Rand?

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, WITHOUT having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 902bk – Brunhammer Katz – Who was GG-Grandmother Marie (née Katz) Brunhammer’s Father?

13 July 2017

Good Day,

And today I start and try to resolve a new mystery. Exactly who was GG-Grandmother Marie (née Katz) Brunhammer’s father? Was it Martin Katz? Or, Was it Louis Katz? Who was our GGG-Grandfather?

I have been able to gather a few documents that are typical papers necessary when researching for information regarding an ancestor.


First – I have GG-Grandmother Marie’s 1867 Marriage Registration to GG-Grandfather Jacques Brunhammer. In it, it is written

“Et Marie Katz, sans états, agé de vingt-cing ans, quatre mois, domiciliée à Thann née à Soultz (Haut-Rhin) le neuf Mai, Mil huit cent quarante-deux, célebataire, fille majeur de feu Louis Katz, tailleur de pierre, décédé à Soultz, le six Janvier mil huit cent quarante-sept, et de vivante Françoise Schaffhauser, sa veuve, sans états, agée de soixante-trois and, domiciliée à Thann…”
Translated – “And Marie Katz, without states, aged twenty-eight four months old, domiciled at Thann, born at Soultz (Haut-Rhin) on the nineteenth of May one thousand eight hundred and forty-two, a celestial daughter of the late Louis Katz, stone-cutter, died at Soultz, on the sixth of January one thousand eight hundred and forty-seven, and of the living Françoise Schaffhauser, his widow, aged sixty-three, and living at Thann ... "

GG-Grandmother Marie’s father is entered as “Louis Katz”. Then I have GG-Grandmother Marie’s 1842 Birth Registration from Soultz, Haut-Rhin in Alsace. This reads…


“Est comparu Louis Katz, âgé de trente sept ans, tailleur de pièrres, domicilié a Jungholtz, lequel nouse a presenté un enfant de sexe feminine, né le jour d’hier, à une heure de matin, de lui declarant, et som domicile et de Françoise Shaffhauser agée de trente sept ans, sans état, son épouse, et auquel il a déclaré donner le pénom de Marie…”
Translated - "There appeared Louis Katz, aged thirty-seven, a stone-cutter, a resident of Jungholtz, who introduced us to a female child born yesterday at one o'clock in the morning, and of Françoise Shaffhauser, aged thirty-seven years, without a state, his wife, and to whom he declared to give the name of Mary ... "

Once again, GG-Grandmother Marie’s father is named as “Louis Katz”.


Now comes the difference. In GG-Grandmother Mary Brunhammer’s, (aka Marie Katz’s) December 11, 1922, Certificate of Death from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania her father is listed as “Martin Katz”. Accordingly, this information was provided by the Informant Charles Custer of Glouster, New Jersey.

Was her Father Louis or was he, Martin?

I then was able to locate an “Acte De Décès” (Death Registration) dated 6 January 1847 for one Louis Katz.

This reads - “le six Janvier, mil huit cent quarante-sept, à trois heures du soir, de Décès de Louis Katz, tailleur de pierres âgé de quarante un an, né a Durlach (Bavière) domicilié en cette ville fils de Frédéric et de Catherine Klauber, épous de la survivante Françoise Schaffhauser, décédé aujourd’hui…”


And translated –

“On the sixth of January one thousand eight hundred and forty-seven, at three o'clock in the evening, of Death of Louis Katz, stonemason, forty-one years old, born in Durlach (Bavaria), residing in this city, son of Frederick and Catherine Klauber, husband of the survivor Françoise Schaffhauser, who died today ... "

There are several items that seem to move the “Yes” pendulum to the fact that GG-Grandmother Marie (née Katz) Brunhammer’s father GGG-Grandfather was named Louis. The number of items on the different documents seem to coincide and appear to repeat the same information over the years.

Well, the question is how did Charles Custer, the Informant to GG-Grandmother Mary Brunhammer’s death relate that her father was “Martin Katz”?

And who was Charles Custer?

I think I know. I think I know logically via some documentary and autosomal DNA proof. Stay tuned for my next write-up on the Brunhammer Katz family.

The family tree is the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, WITHOUT having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have and comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 901sd – Smith Doret Genealogy – Doret? Maybe. Maybe? Let’s Hope So!

23 June 2017

Good Day,

Thank you, Peter, for keeping me in mind with your genealogy research. The image you sent me of the page of the document entered into the Grenada, Supreme Court Registers of Records, 1764 – 1931 may have an iota of a clue that we may need into the research and discovery of my GGG-Grandmother Mary Ann (née Doret) Smith.

The document was penned the 18th of August 1788 and entered 14th of November of that same year. The document is in French which means that I will have to transcribe and then translate.

But here’s the hopeful part. One the first page of the document, which begins on page 340 of the Register concerned there is indicated the name of one “Jean Doret”.



And of course, I jumped at the reveal. The lines where the name of Jean Doret first appears are –

“Et du Coté de la future épouse Le Sieur Jean Doret
Commis Réprésent Le Sieur Tou∫sain Josset pere
de la ditte future épouze…”

And translated –

"And of the side of the future wife The Mister Jean Doret
Clerk Representative The Mister Tou∫sain Josset father
Of the future spouse ... "

Here’s the image of page 340 –

And what does this mean? Well, this may be a hint, a clue to a connection to GGG-Grandmother Mary Ann (née Doret) Smith.

In the opening of page 340, the locations referred to are –

“…Hâbitant au quartier desSalines de cette Isle Grenade…”

and translated –

“living in the Saline district of this island of Grenada…”

Jean Doret, as mentioned in the first page of the document is “the Clerk Representative” on behalf of one of the parties drafting the document.

Does this mean that GGG-Mary Ann Doret is/was related in some way to Jean Doret?

Stay tuned for a further development of our search and research. And if you have any thoughts, comments and or notes, please contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

Thanks, and enjoy,

Jim
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