Part 886sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – ?-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson Search and Research

28 October 2014

Good Day,

I thought you would like to join me with and on my Robertson genealogy search and research process and progress.

Robertson is my maternal line. I am trying to determine which John Robertson is my 6-times great-grandfather, and who was his father, and his father, and so on, and so on.


From my Robertson Descendant Chart you can follow my line back to my 5-times great-grandparents John and Ann (née Lyle/Lisle) Robertson.

Their 1 December 1758 marriage registration in the Old Parish Register from Innerwick in East Lothian, Scotland, (see Part 884rl).  5-times great-grandfather John Robertson’s “Cautioner” was his father, also named John Robertson. This John Robertson would be my 6-times great-grandfather.


Note – Cautioner, in Scottish law and contracts was one who becomes bound as caution or surety for another, for the performance of any obligation or contract contained in a deed. (The Free Dictionary)

4-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson was born and baptized In Oldhamstocks. This was determined and cited from the Parish of Innerwick 1761 Baptism Registration for his sister, 4-times great-grandaunt Margaret Robertson. (Source: Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Innerwick, East Lothian, FHL 1067849 Item 3).

4-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson’s parents 5-times great-grandfather John Robertson and 5-times great-grandmother Ann Lisle were married 1 December 1758 in Innerwick (Source: Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Innerwick, East Lothian, FHL 1067850 Item 2 and ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk 711/00 0030 0349 Innerwick (East Lothian)).

I have discovered that there are three immediate locations referred to and cross-referenced to 5-times and 4-times great-grandfathers John Robertson. The three are Oldhamstocks (A-marker), Innerwick (B-marker), and Butter Law (C-maker, approximate).


I will be spending some time in the short future trying to discover and logically determine, with the appropriate documents and citations. Check out my updates at A Genealogy Hunt - http://agenealogyhunt.com/.

Please feel free to assist, lend a thought and idea, ask a question, and make a comment. You can contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 885sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – Robertson Y-DNA – R-U106 – More Ancestors

14 October 2014

Good Day,

As I am currently digging deeper into the realm of our Robertson ancestors I thought that I would revisit our current Robertson Y-DNA results. (Thank you GR.)


According to the Family Tree DNA tests our Robertson Y-DNA Haplogroup is R-U106. The analysis shows that our Robertson Y-DNA is positive for the following SNPs: U106+; and negative for the following SNPs: U198- P89- P312- P107- L6- L48- L325- L257- L217- L21- L144- L1-. In this case the SNP does not stand for the Scottish National Party. It is the abbreviation for “Single-nucleotide polymorphism”. (If you are interested there is a good discussion of Single-nucleotide polymorphism” at Wikipedia.)


From the Genetics Home Reference Single nucleotide polymorphisms, frequently called SNPs (pronounced “snips”), are the most common type of genetic variation among people…SNPs occur normally throughout a person’s DNA. They occur once in every 300 nucleotides on average, which means there are roughly 10 million SNPs in the human genome. Most commonly, these variations are found in the DNA between genes…

Previously I reported I reported that our Robertson Y-DNA Haplogroup is R1b1a2a1a1. This means that every Robertson male in our family line should have and belong to the same Haplogroup.


From my recent research I have read at Y-DNA Halpgroup R and its Subclades - 2014 that R1b1a2a1a-L11/PF6539/S127 and most European R1b1a2 belongs to R1b1a2a1a1-M405/S21/U106 or R1b1a2a1a2-P312/PF6547/S116.

From Ancestry.com I have been able to find a number of recently placed family trees that include at least a number of my Robertson ancestors.  The issues are that a few of the family trees do not include complete sources or citations of where they got or received the associated information.  I can use this information as stepping stones to find possible sources.  When comparing the allocated information some of the information is in conflict with each other.  The amazing thing about this presented data is that there is a possibility of locating another four generations of Robertson ancestors.

My goal is to research and search using the presented Robertson family tree information, the Old Scottish Parish Records and other documentation, our Y-DNA, and logical possibilities and conclusions to see if I can make heads or tails my ancestry.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 884rl – Smith Robertson Genealogy – 1758 Marriage – 5-Times Great Grandparents John and Ann (née Lisle) Robertson – Innerwick, Scotland

06 October 2014

Good Day,

I’ve been working on my start-up search and research and I decided to tackle my Robertson family line.

My search and research will now take me to Scotland and the area around the villages of Innerwick and Oldhamstocks in East Lothian, Scotland.  The current populations of the villages are about 450 and 200 give or take, respectively.


The following is the 1st December 1758 proclamation/marriage registration of 5-times great-grandparents John Robertson and Ann Lisle. The proclamation/marriage is recorded in the Old Parish Registers of Innerwick, East Lothian in Scotland.



(Source: ScotlandsPeople - Robertson, John (O.P.R. Marriages 711/00 0030 0349 Innerwick (East Lothian) and 
Family History Library - Parish registers for Innerwick, 1614-1857, FHL 1067850.)

My transcription –

Decr 1st 1758
John Robertson & Ann Lisle both in this
parish gave up their names to be proclaimed
Cautioner for the man John Robertson
his Father for the woman James
Lisle her Brother.

Definitions -

Proclaimed - The banns of marriage, commonly known simply as the "banns" or "bans" (from a Middle English word meaning "proclamation," rooted in Frankish and from there to Old French), are the public announcement in a Christian parish church of an impending marriage between two specified persons. (Wikipedia - Banns of marriage)

Cautioner - Scotch law, contracts. One who becomes bound as caution or surety for another, for the performance of any obligation or contract contained in a deed. (A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.)

I will be updating my Robertson Descendant Chart shortly.

If you have any idea, comments, thoughts, answers, please feel free to contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 883sg – Smith Groh Genealogy – Great-Grandfather Wilfred J. Groh – 1938 and 1939

22 September 2014

Good Day,

Today I swing my search and research in a slight different direction. I am currently following the family line of CK’s great-grandfather Wilfred J. Groh. And who knew what would immediately show up when I started the search engines into place.

 

From the U.S. Yearbooks, 1880-2012 collection on Ancestry.com I received two instantaneous hits on the name Wilfred Groh. The hits are pages from the 1938 and 1939 Cardinal Annual yearbook of South Division High School in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

 

CK’s great-grandfather Wilfred was a sophomore and a junior in 1938 and 1939, respectively. Here are the pages of the class pictures.

1938 –

 


Great-grandfather Wilfred highlighted (red box) –

1939 –


Great-grandfather Wilfred highlighted (red oval) –

And the search continues.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 882sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – Haplogroup R-CTS7822

19 September 2014

Good Day,

Family Tree DNA has confirmed that my Y-DNA Haplogroup is R-CTS7822.  My Y-DNA Haplotree was created in partnership with The Genographic Project.



The following SNPs have shown up as positive: M207+; M173+; P25+; M343+; Z2105+; Z2103+; M269+;  L150+; L23+; and CTS7822+.

And these SNPs are indicated as negative: YSC0000072-; U198-; U152-; U106-; SRY2627-; P66-; P107-; M73-; M65-; M37-; M222-; M18-; M160-; M153-; M126-; L51-; L151-; and F2863-.

In the above Haplotree diagram I have highlighted the positive SNPs in yellow and the negative SNPs in buff.

This is my bloodline descent from three-times great grandfather James Smith of Grenada...(not Granada.) If you are a male descended from my ggg-grandfather James you too should find that your Y-DNA results would be considered the same.

I am still attempting to search and research the origins of James Smith.  As I learn I will try to divulge.

If you have any thoughts, questions, ideas, comments feel free to contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 881bd – Brunhammer Doherty Genealogy – 1977 Certificate of Death – Grandmother Anna / Anne (née McAteer) Brunhammer

02 September 2014

Good Day,

Today we were able to get a copy of Grandmother Anna / Anne (née McAteer) Brunhammer’s Certificate of Death from the State of Delaware. Grandmother Anne passed away on January 26, 1977.


For the purposes of privacy we have blacked out the corresponding Social Security Number. We attempt to ensure that no corresponding numbers are published or printed in our A Genealogy Hunt.

The following is the indexed record from the site GenealogyBank.com.


If you have any thoughts, questions, ideas, comments please feel free to contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 880sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – Updated Y-DNA Results – Haplogroup R-CTS7822

27 August 2014

Good Day,

I have been reclassified. My Smith Paternal Line is R-CTS7822.

This means that as a descendant of ggg-grandfather James Smith my Y-DNA has gone from one of the more-common to just a little less-more-common… And this includes all male descendants of this Smith line, including the Lloyd Smiths, the Malin Smiths, the Landreth Smiths, et al, that is, if you can trace your ancestry back to great-great-great James Smith of Grenada.

Most recently I had two more SNPs tested – CTS7822 and F2863 with Family Tree DNA. That’s Single Nucleotide Polymorphism, SNP, pronounced snip; plural snips. SNPs are the most common type of genetic variation among people.

One test, F2863 came back negative and the other, CTS7822 came back positive. My Haplogroup classification at Family Tree DNA and at National Geographic’s The Genographic Project has now been changed to R-CTS7822. This is an adjustment from the previous R-L23 and this has something to do with the mapping of the YSC0000072, even though Family Tree DNA has me tested as negative for this SNP.

And what does this mean? According to Geno 2.0 of The Genographic Project each person is assigned to a specific Haplogroup. The Haplogroup is my branch on the human family tree… People belonging to the same Haplogroup can trace their descent to a common ancestor and even a specific place where that ancestor may have lived.

I am 1 of 678,632 participants of The Genographic Project. Accordingly 0.8% of all participants in the Project are included in my paternal Haplogroup and that includes 5,429 participants. As the Y-DNA is passed from father to son to son this means, once again, that all of ggg-grandfather James Smith’s descendants are of the R-CTS7822 Paternal Line.


As a member of one of the Y-DNA projects, the Bristol Channel DNA Project, the current update includes the following members with the Surnames which have tested positive for the SNP CTS78222.  These include Bennett, Coat, Follis, French, Locke, Peed, Robinson, Seymour, and Smith.

One of the project members has been running an analysis on our STRs (Short Tandem Repeats) and has calculated/estimated that our MRCA (Most Recent Common Ancestor) for our grouping may have lived somewhere between 950 AD and 1200 AD. This time frame may be subject to refinement as more kits (albeit persons) join this specific Project.

There is still one hell of a lot that I need to learn and understand. I’m a bit farther along, but I have only scratched the surface of the information. Images and certificates are published by Family Tree DNA and National Geographic The Genographic Project.

Stay tuned.

And the mosquitoes are biting tonight. Have to get me some bay-rum for the itch.

Enjoy,

Jim
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