Part 889sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – East Lothian Robertson Baptisms – New Work Project

14 November 2014

Good Day,

I began a new work project to chart the OPR – Old Parochial Registers from East Lothian, Scotland. All-things-being-equal this project could, may, lead me to the connection of my Robertson 4-times great-grandparents and their ancestors, my 5-times and 6-times great-grandparents.  I have started with the Parishes of Innerwick and Oldhamstocks.


My challenge and goal is to plot all possible Robertson candidates, whether father, mother, or child who have documented baptism/christening registrations in the OPRs.

Based on the indexed and summary work as found on FreeREG, I have calculated that there may be approximately 1,721 possible Robertson-associated baptism records that I can use. (Please check FreeREG’s Purpose for explanation of their great work.)  Microfilms of the Parish registers are available through the Family History Library.

Today I charted 69, or 4% of the recorded baptisms. I am currently concentrating on the Parish Churches of Innerwick and Oldhamstocks. I think I have a job ahead of me.


To date I have been able to trace my 4-times great-grandparents John and Christian (née Dudgeon) to the Parish of Oldhamstocks.

We also have the current results of our Robertson Y-DNA - R-U106 (R1b1a2a1a1a), as tested through Family Tree DNA. (Thanks G.) Hopefully there are possible Robertsons out there somewhere on this small planet that may be able to identify their ancestors and/or match to our current Y-DNA results.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any ideas, thoughts, questions, and comments. Email me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 888sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – GGG-Grand Uncle John Robertson – A Poet – Oldhamstocks to Glasgow

09 November 2014

Good Day,

It is always a great feeling when I stumble upon a document, a piece of evidence that confirms some detail of the history and account of my genealogy.

 

Two nights ago I just happened upon a couple of pages from an 1893 publication, Minstrelsy of The Merse, The Poets and Poetry of Berwickshire, A County Anthology by the Rev. W.S. Crockett, F.S.A.Scot. I discovered two pages concerning my ggg-granduncle John Robertson - 


Pages 117 and 118.

 

The details in the short write up provides some corroborating evidence about ggg-granduncle John and his Robertson family origination in Oldhamstocks and their move to Glasgow in about 1792.

“he quitted his native village in his fourteenth year, made his way to Glasgow…”

GGG-Granduncle John Robertson was born and baptized in Oldhamstocks 4 March and 12 March 1779, respectively. And 14 years added to 1779 equals 1793…close enough.


My previous work and the collection of baptism registrations indicate that ggg-granduncle John and four of his five brothers, including ggg-grandfather Thomas, lived and were baptized in Oldhamstocks. His youngest brother, ggg-granduncle Robert Robertson was born in Glasgow 7th September 1792.


If you have any thought, idea, question, comment, please feel free to contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

And remember the details and the facts may change with the discovery of new documentation and writings.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 887sg – Smith Groh Genealogy – Groh – 1944 Military Recognition

02 November 2014

Good Day,

My search and research goes on.

Today I discovered a page from the 1944 Cardinal yearbook of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. This page recognizes South Division Alumni who were in and contributed during World War II. Members of the United States Army included CK’s great-grandfather Wilfred Groh and his brother, great-granduncle Jack Groh.



From the files of the U.S., Department of Veterans Affairs great-grandfather Wilfred Enlistment Date was 18 Nov 1942, Branch 1: Army. His Release Date was 18 Jun 1946.

And the search continues.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 886sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – ?-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson Search and Research

28 October 2014

Good Day,

I thought you would like to join me with and on my Robertson genealogy search and research process and progress.

Robertson is my maternal line. I am trying to determine which John Robertson is my 6-times great-grandfather, and who was his father, and his father, and so on, and so on.


From my Robertson Descendant Chart you can follow my line back to my 5-times great-grandparents John and Ann (née Lyle/Lisle) Robertson.

Their 1 December 1758 marriage registration in the Old Parish Register from Innerwick in East Lothian, Scotland, (see Part 884rl).  5-times great-grandfather John Robertson’s “Cautioner” was his father, also named John Robertson. This John Robertson would be my 6-times great-grandfather.


Note – Cautioner, in Scottish law and contracts was one who becomes bound as caution or surety for another, for the performance of any obligation or contract contained in a deed. (The Free Dictionary)

4-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson was born and baptized In Oldhamstocks. This was determined and cited from the Parish of Innerwick 1761 Baptism Registration for his sister, 4-times great-grandaunt Margaret Robertson. (Source: Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Innerwick, East Lothian, FHL 1067849 Item 3).

4-Times Great-Grandfather John Robertson’s parents 5-times great-grandfather John Robertson and 5-times great-grandmother Ann Lisle were married 1 December 1758 in Innerwick (Source: Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Innerwick, East Lothian, FHL 1067850 Item 2 and ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk 711/00 0030 0349 Innerwick (East Lothian)).

I have discovered that there are three immediate locations referred to and cross-referenced to 5-times and 4-times great-grandfathers John Robertson. The three are Oldhamstocks (A-marker), Innerwick (B-marker), and Butter Law (C-maker, approximate).


I will be spending some time in the short future trying to discover and logically determine, with the appropriate documents and citations. Check out my updates at A Genealogy Hunt - http://agenealogyhunt.com/.

Please feel free to assist, lend a thought and idea, ask a question, and make a comment. You can contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 885sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – Robertson Y-DNA – R-U106 – More Ancestors

14 October 2014

Good Day,

As I am currently digging deeper into the realm of our Robertson ancestors I thought that I would revisit our current Robertson Y-DNA results. (Thank you GR.)


According to the Family Tree DNA tests our Robertson Y-DNA Haplogroup is R-U106. The analysis shows that our Robertson Y-DNA is positive for the following SNPs: U106+; and negative for the following SNPs: U198- P89- P312- P107- L6- L48- L325- L257- L217- L21- L144- L1-. In this case the SNP does not stand for the Scottish National Party. It is the abbreviation for “Single-nucleotide polymorphism”. (If you are interested there is a good discussion of Single-nucleotide polymorphism” at Wikipedia.)


From the Genetics Home Reference Single nucleotide polymorphisms, frequently called SNPs (pronounced “snips”), are the most common type of genetic variation among people…SNPs occur normally throughout a person’s DNA. They occur once in every 300 nucleotides on average, which means there are roughly 10 million SNPs in the human genome. Most commonly, these variations are found in the DNA between genes…

Previously I reported I reported that our Robertson Y-DNA Haplogroup is R1b1a2a1a1. This means that every Robertson male in our family line should have and belong to the same Haplogroup.


From my recent research I have read at Y-DNA Halpgroup R and its Subclades - 2014 that R1b1a2a1a-L11/PF6539/S127 and most European R1b1a2 belongs to R1b1a2a1a1-M405/S21/U106 or R1b1a2a1a2-P312/PF6547/S116.

From Ancestry.com I have been able to find a number of recently placed family trees that include at least a number of my Robertson ancestors.  The issues are that a few of the family trees do not include complete sources or citations of where they got or received the associated information.  I can use this information as stepping stones to find possible sources.  When comparing the allocated information some of the information is in conflict with each other.  The amazing thing about this presented data is that there is a possibility of locating another four generations of Robertson ancestors.

My goal is to research and search using the presented Robertson family tree information, the Old Scottish Parish Records and other documentation, our Y-DNA, and logical possibilities and conclusions to see if I can make heads or tails my ancestry.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 884rl – Smith Robertson Genealogy – 1758 Marriage – 5-Times Great Grandparents John and Ann (née Lisle) Robertson – Innerwick, Scotland

06 October 2014

Good Day,

I’ve been working on my start-up search and research and I decided to tackle my Robertson family line.

My search and research will now take me to Scotland and the area around the villages of Innerwick and Oldhamstocks in East Lothian, Scotland.  The current populations of the villages are about 450 and 200 give or take, respectively.


The following is the 1st December 1758 proclamation/marriage registration of 5-times great-grandparents John Robertson and Ann Lisle. The proclamation/marriage is recorded in the Old Parish Registers of Innerwick, East Lothian in Scotland.



(Source: ScotlandsPeople - Robertson, John (O.P.R. Marriages 711/00 0030 0349 Innerwick (East Lothian) and 
Family History Library - Parish registers for Innerwick, 1614-1857, FHL 1067850.)

My transcription –

Decr 1st 1758
John Robertson & Ann Lisle both in this
parish gave up their names to be proclaimed
Cautioner for the man John Robertson
his Father for the woman James
Lisle her Brother.

Definitions -

Proclaimed - The banns of marriage, commonly known simply as the "banns" or "bans" (from a Middle English word meaning "proclamation," rooted in Frankish and from there to Old French), are the public announcement in a Christian parish church of an impending marriage between two specified persons. (Wikipedia - Banns of marriage)

Cautioner - Scotch law, contracts. One who becomes bound as caution or surety for another, for the performance of any obligation or contract contained in a deed. (A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.)

I will be updating my Robertson Descendant Chart shortly.

If you have any idea, comments, thoughts, answers, please feel free to contact me at A Genealogy Hunt.

Enjoy,

Jim
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Part 883sg – Smith Groh Genealogy – Great-Grandfather Wilfred J. Groh – 1938 and 1939

22 September 2014

Good Day,

Today I swing my search and research in a slight different direction. I am currently following the family line of CK’s great-grandfather Wilfred J. Groh. And who knew what would immediately show up when I started the search engines into place.

 

From the U.S. Yearbooks, 1880-2012 collection on Ancestry.com I received two instantaneous hits on the name Wilfred Groh. The hits are pages from the 1938 and 1939 Cardinal Annual yearbook of South Division High School in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

 

CK’s great-grandfather Wilfred was a sophomore and a junior in 1938 and 1939, respectively. Here are the pages of the class pictures.

1938 –

 


Great-grandfather Wilfred highlighted (red box) –

1939 –


Great-grandfather Wilfred highlighted (red oval) –

And the search continues.

Enjoy,

Jim
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