Part 949ss – 1703 Baptism Registration – GGGGGG-Grandfather Patrick (aka Peter) Scott

31 May 2019

Good Day,

Today I have discovered the 1703 Baptism Registration for 6-times Great-Grandfather Patrick Scott in the “Old parochial registers for Duddingston. 1631-1854”.

I have also found that there may be an issue, in that at times GGGGGG-Grandfather Patrick was also known as Peter.



Transcription –

Thursday 1703 May 27th

This day David Scott fermourer in Easter Dunningstoun, and MargaretCrawfoord his spouse had a son baptized, and namedPatrick, Witnesses William Sheell fermourer in EasterDuddingstoun, Andrew Horn Coal-grieve, & James McClenan fermourerIn White Hill.

Source: Family History Library, FHL 1066683, Image 372 of 920

Thanks to TW and TD, they were able to assist with a definition of “fermourer”. “A fermourer was someone who tended a farm, including livestock and crops, but did not own it, (per ScotlandsPeople’s occupational glossary.)

6-times Great-Grandfather Patrick's 1703 Baptism Registration now introduces us to 7-times Great-Grandparents David and Margaret (née Crawfoord) Scott.

7-times Great-Grandfather David Scott was a fermourer.

Of course, I have created a new Patrick Scott Descendant Chart. This new Chart includes GGGGGG-Grandfather Patrick Scott's wife, GGGGGG-Grandmother Euphame Horn.

The Chart also includes their 9 children. I have been able to find the Baptism Registrations of each of the nine. I will provide them at a later date.



Just something that I would like to mention that may be one of my idiosyncrasies. I taught dialectical English for a number years in my tenure as a Teacher.  When I search and find the first document relating to an ancestor of mine, I typically will enter the first spelling of a name that I may encounter into my genealogy database. As we know, individuals may have multiple renditions and spellings of their names. Any additional one that I come across I will also enter the new one as an "alternate name".

The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 948ss – 1719 Baptism Registration – GGGGG-Grandmother Margaret (née Straiton) Scott

29 May 2019

Good Day,

And I believe, thank you A.S., that we have found the 1719 Baptism Registration for GGGGG-Grandmother Margaret (née Straiton) Scott.




Transcription –

Straiton

James Straiton Cooper in Leith & Marion Fulton his
Spouse had A. D. N. Margaret Born 18 & Baptized 22 of
December 1719 Witt. Patrick Anderson Cooper there & John
Fulton Farmer in Restalrig

Source: ScotlandsPeople_OPR692_020_0050_0161Z

We are now introduced to 6-times Great-Grandparents James and Marion (née Fulton) Straiton.

And the new location of Restalrig is also presented.


Notice that one of the sponsors is "John Fulton Farmer in Restalrig".  Yes, I have found out who John Fulton is.



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

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Jim
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Part 947ss – 1751 Marriage Registration – GGGGG-Grandparents William and Margaret (née Straiton) Scott

27 May 2019

Good Day,

Do you know the difference between an “irregular” marriage versus a “regular” marriage in Scotland? I didn’t…but I do now.

In Scotland, prior to 1 July 1940 an “irregular” marriage, (from Scotlands People), was a recognized marriage “in which a man and a woman made a declaration in front of two witnesses, hence the other name “marriage by declaration”" A “regular” marriage was one where a couple “were married by a minister. The “regular” marriage involved banns being read on three consecutive Sundays at the parish church.

All-things-being equal, there may never be a registered copy of an irregular marriage in the parish registers.

And yes, I have located the 1751 Marriage Registration for GGGGG-Grandparents William and Margaret (née Straiton) Scott.




Transcription –

1751

Scott

William Scott Brewer in Leith and Margaret Straiton Daur toThe deceast James Straiton Brewer there, after regular Proclamation of Banns,Were married upon the 6th Novr 1751.

Source: FHL 7908873 Image 302 of 934

Translated –

1751

Scott

William Scott Brewer in Leith and Margaret Straiton Daughter toThe deceased James Straiton Brewer there, after regular Proclamation of Banns,Were married upon the 6th November 1751.

And why do you ask am I interested in “regular” and “irregular” marriages? Well, I am currently researching my Scott family line in Scotland. Obviously, the type of marriage may result in the lack of documented paper registrations.

Also, on the facing page of the Parish Register in which I found GGGGG-Grandparents William and Margaret’s 1751 Marriage Registration, includes on the facing page the marriage registration of another William Scott to one Margaret Kilgower. Their Marriage Registration refers to both an irregular marriage on 2 July 1750 and a regular marriage in the church on 20 June 1751.

Does anyone know, in Scotland at certain times, could "Margaret" be replaced by "Marion"? I've read on one famous case, in history.

The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 946ss – 1726 Baptism GGGGG-Grandfather William Scott

26 May 2019

Good Day,

Duddingston Kirk, Scotland
Yes, I am going further and further back in time. In my research of my Scott Family line I have found in the vicinity of about 200 documents.

This time, I would like to present to you the 1726 Baptism Registration of GGGGG-Grandfather William Scott from the Duddingston Parish Registers.

Source: FHL 7908838 Image 505 of 920.

Transcription –

Baptisms 1726

May 25

Patrick Scot and Euphame Horn his spouse had aSon baptised namd William. There were witneses Andrew &William Horns; The child was born upon the 17th day.

Source: FHL 7908838 Image 505 of 920.

GGGGG-Grandfather William Scott was born on the 17th of May and baptised 25 May 1726.  The Baptism Registration also introduces us to 6-times Great-Grandparents Patrick Scott and Euphame Horn.

GGGGG-Grandfather William Scott's Descendant Chart -



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 945ss - 1754 Baptism GGGG-Grandfather James Scott

23 May 2019

Good Day,


Today I have relocated, in my genealogy research, to South Leith, Scotland. And adding to my library, I have been able to pick up a copy of Sue Mowat's 1994 "The Port of Leith".


Using Scotlands People and Family Search, I have been able to get a copy of the 1754 Baptism Registration of GGGG-Grandfather James Scott.



And this Baptism Registration introduces me to my 5-times Great-Grandparents William Scott and Margaret Straiton.



Transcription -

July 1754

Scott
m.

William Scott Brewer in Leith & Marg. Straiton
his Sp. A, S. N. James born 15th bap. 18th July 1754
Witt: Peter Scott Farmer in Easter Duddingston, & Jo: Watt
Shipmaster in Leith.
Source: FHL 1067771 Image 687 of 1022


Translation -

July 1754

Scott

Male

William Scott Brewer in Leith and Margaret Straiton
his Spouse A Son Named James born July 15th, baptised 18 July 1754
Witnesses: Peter Scott Farmer in Easter Duddingston and John/Jonathan Watt
Shipmaster in Leith.

Here is a quick draft of the Descendants of GGGGG-Grandfather William Scott -



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

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Jim
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Part 944rs - 1761 Baptism Registration and 1784 Marriage Registration GGGG-Grandmother Ann (née Reid) Scott

21 May 2019

Good Day,

I tracked down my GGGG-Grandparents James Scott and Ann Reid's 1784 Marriage Registration(s) from Family History Library and ScotlandsPeople.


GGGG-Grandmother Ann (née Reid) Scott was originally from Ratho, Midlothian, Scotland.


Transcription -

March and April 1784

Scott

Mr. James Scott Wright in Leith, and Miss Ann Reid Residenter
Humbie and Daughter of Mr. George Reid Farmer in Ratho af-
ter proclamation of banns were married April 9th 1784.

FHL 07908873 Image 486 of 934



Transcription -
1784

March 27

Mr. Jas Scot in the Parish of South Leith & Miss 
Ann Reid in this gave up their Names for procla
-mation & were married.

FHL 1066630 Image 357 of 569

GGGG-Grandmother Ann (née Reid) Scott's 1761 Baptism Registration.



Transcription -

1761

Thursd: July 16

Anne Reid Lawful Daughter to George Reid & Sarah Laurie 
was born July 10 and baptized the 16th Witnesses Alexd 
and James Reid.


FHL 1067790 Image 107 of 325

And the following are my immediate connections up to my GGGG-Grandmother Ann (née Reid) Scott.



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 943rs - The Search For GGGG-Grandmother Ann (née Reid) Scott

18 May 2019

Good Day,




I am now at a point in my research of my Scott Family line where I need to figure out who and how are GGGG-Grandfather's parents, my 5-times Great-Grandparents. The possibilities are William Scott and Margaret Sraiton, and, George Reid and Sarah Laurie.

Here are a couple of facts and thoughts that I have collected that, hopefully, should point to some answers.

1. GGGG-Grandparents James and Ann (née Reid) Scott were married 9 April 1784 in Leith, Scotland. See Part 942sr - 1784 Marriage Registration - GGGG-Grandfather James and Ann (née Reid) Scott.

2. GGGG-Grandmother Ann Reid's father is confirmed as "Mr. George Reid Farmer in Ratho" on her 1784 Marriage Registration.

2. GGGG-Grandparents James and Ann Scott had 11 children. I am currently in the process of searching for all baptism registrations.

3. The 1st 4 of the listed 11 children of GGGG-Grandparents James and Ann are named after their Grandparents, my GGGGG-Grandparents William Scott and Margaret Sraiton, and, George Reid and Sarah Laurie. The 1st 4 names are: William, Sarah, Margaret, and George.

4. From findmypast "Search Scottish Records".

"The Scots have for many centuries followed a relatively simple set of rules when assigning given names to their successive children. While these traditional naming patters were not followed by all families, they were widespread enough that a basic understanding of them can come in handy when hunting for Scottish ancestors.

Being familiar with these patterns will allow you to make genealogical inferences, identify potential new avenues of research and reveal all sorts of clues about the lives of your ancestors.

By the latter part of the nineteenth century, these patterns began to break down and fade out of use so be cautious when using them to identify more recent ancestors.

The traditional patterns used when naming boys were as follows:


  • The first son would be named after the father's father (variation is after the mother's father)
  • The second after the mother's father (variation is the father's father)
  • The third son would be named after the father
  • The fourth son would be named after the father's oldest brother (variation is after the father's paternal grandfather)
  • The fifth son would be named after the mother's oldest brother (variation is after the mother's paternal grandfather)


and for girls:


  • First daughter named after the mother's mother (variation is after the father's mother
  • Second daughter named after the father's mother
  • Third daughter named after the mother
  • Fourth daughter named after the mother's oldest sister (variation is after the mother's maternal grandmother)
  • Fifth daughter named after the father's oldest sister (variation is after the father's maternal grandmother)"





The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

Also, let me know if you would like an invitation to access to my Smith Robertson Family Tree on Ancestry. You can email me at jsmith58@gmail.com.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 942sr - 1784 Marriage Registration - GGGG-Grandfather James and Ann (née Reid) Scott

14 May 2019

Good Day,

Following the discovery of the 1802 Baptism Registration, (see Part 941ss), and as the Registration identified GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott's parents as James Scott and Ann Reid, my next step is to seek out a possible Marriage Registration. All-things-being-equal James Scott and Ann Reid would have been my GGGG-Great-Grandparents.

I have discovered that GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott may have been the youngest of  the 11 children of GGGG-Grandparents James and Ann (née Reid) Scott.

And next, the 1784 Marriage Registration of GGGG-Grandparents James and Ann (née Reid) Scott.



Transcription -

51

March and April 1784

Scott

Mr. James Scott Wright in Leith, and Mifs Ann Reid ResidenterHumbie and Daughter of Mr. George Reid Farmer in Ratho af-ter proclamation of banns were married April 9th 1784.

And as far as coincidences go, I noted that GGGG-Grandfather James Scott is listed as a "Wright in Leith".  "The noun "wright" is an Old English word, and it always refers to a person who builds, creates, or repairs something (as in playwright or shipwright).  A Wright: a skilled craftsman.

In my research in Part 512s – Smith Robertson Genealogy – GGG-Grandfather James Smith’s Noted Occupations, I observed that GGG-Grandfather James Smith also at points of time in his life is recorded as having been a Wright.


The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 941ss - 1802 Baptism GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott

13 May 2019

Good Day,



I am continuing the search and confirmation of my Scott Family line.  I have now traveled from Kingston, Jamaica to Leith, Scotland. Thanks to TK, KM, and AS for their assistance and review.

Today I have the 12 April 1802 Baptism Registration of GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott. The Baptism Registration confirms GGGG-Grandparents James Scott and Anne Reid.



Transcription -

April 1802

Scott

Mr. James Scott Merchant in Leith, and Anne Reid Sp ASN AlexanderReid born 16th March bapd. 12th April 1802 Witn M. William ScottBrewer in Leith, and Mr. Patrick Hadaway Brewer there.


Translated -

April 1802

Scott

Mr. James Scott Merchant in Leith, and Anne Reid Spouse A Son Named Alexander Reid born 16th March baptised 12th April 1802 Witnesses M. William Scott Brewer in Leith, and Mr. Patrick Hadaway Brewer there.


"In this parish are 5142 heads of families, 2439 male child, 2432 female child, 484 male servants, 935 female servants, in all 11432 individuals, and 2893 families. 432 individuals reside in Restalrig, 557 in Abbeyhill and 1497 in Calton of Edinburgh."

(From the Statistical Account of Scotland 1791-1799 Vol II)



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 940sh - GGG-Grandmother Eliza Hall

11 May 2019

Good day,

I’ve begun a journey in the search of information regarding my GGG-Grandmother Eliza Hall. She and GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott were the parents of my GG-Grandfather, the Reverend Alexander Scott.

I have found a Baptism Registration for one Eliza Hall whose parents were Ann Bishe and Harry (aka Henry) J. Hall. Eliza Hall’s baptism occurred in Kingston, Jamaica on 17 March 1804. Included in the registration is her birth date of 30 June 1802.

1804 March 27 Baptism Registration
Eliza Hall, Kingston, Jamaica
FHL 1291763, Image 74 of 228


As GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott’s birth date is recorded as 16 March 1802 on his Baptism Registration dated 12 April 1802, it is safe to say that these two individuals were pretty close in age.

GG-Grandfather, the Reverend Alexander Scott’s Baptism Registration dated 30 July 1833 indicates his birth date as 17 August 1830 in the Parish of St. Andrew, County of Surrey, in Jamaica. His parents are entered as “Alex Reid Scott & Eliza Hall”. In most cases, if the parents are married, the entry could have read as “Alex Reid Scott & Eliza his wife”. This is not a fast rule, but it is something to think about.

In 1846 GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott married Eliza Miller. See Part 939ss - 1846 GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott Marries Eliza Miller.

Here's some food for thought, and for your ideas.

1. Eliza Hall, according to the required Slave Ownership Accounting instituted between 1812 and 1834, owned slaves.

2. The 1829 Accounting form, Eliza Hall's signature is witnessed by H. I. Hall.



3. The 1832 Accounting form, Eliza Hall's signature is witnessed by Alex R. Scott.



4. 1804 Baptism Registration for Eliza, her parents Henry/Harry i/J Hall and Anne Bishe. Her birth 1802. See 1st document above.

5. 1833 Baptism Registration for GG-Grandfather Alexander Scott, parents Alexander Reid Scott and Eliza Hall. See Part 932ss – 1833 Baptism GG-Grandfather Reverend Alexander S. M. Scott.

What do you think? Who's connected to who, and how?



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 939ss - 1846 GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott Marries Eliza Miller

09 May 2019

Good day,

At long last!

I have found a good source for the 1846 Marriage of GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott to Eliza Miller.



Transcription -

"JULY 8 - BURY AND NORWICH POST, AND EAST ANGLIAN - 1846
MARRIED
Same day, at Lyston, Essex, by the Rev. J. I. Worship,
Alexander Reid Scott, Esq., of Kingston, Jamaica, to
Eliza, only daughter of the late Alexander Miller, Esq,
of the same place."


The "same day" refers to the previous Marriage Registration and the time frame of "On Tuesday last".  Calculating that from the date of the Bury and Norwich Post, and East Anglian, 8 July 1846, I would say that GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott's and Eliza Miller`s marriage happened on 7 July 1846.

There is an issue that their 1846 Marriage was registered in Sudbury, Suffolk, England in the 2nd Quarter. According to the Post it took place, from my interpretation on July 7, which is in the 3rd Quarter. Note also, the difference between the two Counties of Essex and Suffolk. Liston, Essex is less than 3 miles north of Sudbury.

Also, something should be noted, that today Lyston is spelled as Liston in Essex.

We have found the Marriages Registered in April, May, June 1846.

Here are the copies of the 1846 Marriage Registrations for GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott and Eliza Miller.





Here is an quick update, which or course can change as the research continues, of GGG-Grandfather Alexander Reid Scott`s and Eliza Miller`s Ancestry Chart.



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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