Part 918s - Autosomal DNA Testing - Is It Genealogy?

21 March 2018

Good Day,

Following up to my Autosomal DNA comparison exercise, I, serendipitously, stumbled upon an article at the online magazine Vice. Please, understand that I am not trying “to trash” Autosomal DNA testing. I am just trying to point out that it has become an immature tangent of what one could consider is correct genealogy research.


Is it a tool? Yes. Is Autosomal DNA testing providing the answers to the pure science of genealogy and genetic research? In my humble opinion, again Autosomal DNA does not provide the complete and correct end to the questions of one’s genealogy, the study of family origins and history.

Does it provide possible answers to unknown connections and answers to unasked questions? Yes, maybe, and no.

The Vice article by Moses Monterroza, March 21, 2018, “I Tested My DNA and Learned About Self-Delusion”  

“Obviously, nothing actually changed. After all, these results are really just percentages vaguely indicating that I am associated with several specific regions on Earth. And really, that’s it. There’s no renewed sense of self, no reconnection with my past, just a bunch of percentage points.”

Take a few moments and read Monterroza’s article. He does present an interesting point of view.

And note, that genealogy is a formidable task of wading through reams and reams of papers and films. It is the searching for and the researching of those glimpses into the past of who and when your ancestors and ancient family existed. It is not necessarily a percentage or estimate provided by a corporation. A corporation and/or organization that is currently examining their bottom line and net return on subscription dues.


Just my opinion.

Regards,

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Part 917sb - Autosomal Tests Comparison

Good Day,

I've been asked a number of questions regarding the postings of my and Andy Brunhammer's Autosomal DNA results with respect of the various testing companies and organizations.

Why are there differences and varied numbers across the results?




The logical explanation(s) is that certain companies/organizations test only within certain and/or limited capabilities. In other words, some may not test for specific "ethnicities". Also there may be a void of the number of ethnic-specific results in their overall databases.

Does that mean your "lieder-hausen" should be traded in for a "kilt"? Or should your blue eyes mean you are "definitely" localized to a specific country?

As the results are not necessarily 100% absolute, if you should decide on getting an autosomal DNA test done, please remember that "family matches" may be implicit and should be realized with the necessary sources and documentation.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 916b - Brunhammer Autosomal DNA Tests - Comparison

19 March 2018

Greetings,

If you are thinking about the autosomal DNA testing here are several tests completed. These are Andy Brunhammer's tests. Each includes the associated percentages as they apply to specific "ethnicity" labels.



The International Society of Genetic Genealogy Wiki is an excellent reference site. Check out the Autosomal DNA testing comparison chart link. (It does not include LivingDNA.)

https://isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page

Regards,

Jim
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Part 915s - Smith Autosomal DNA Tests - Comparison

Greetings,

If you are thinking about the autosomal DNA testing here are several tests completed. These are my tests. Each includes the associated percentages as they apply to specific "ethnicity" labels.



The International Society of Genetic Genealogy Wiki is an excellent reference site. Check out the Autosomal DNA testing comparison chart link. (It does not include LivingDNA.)

https://isogg.org/wiki/Wiki_Welcome_Page

Regards,

Jim
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Part 914sr – Smith Robertson Genealogy – Another DNA 111 Marker Match

17 October 2017

Good Day,

I just received news from Family Tree DNA that my Smith Y-DNA has another 111-Marker match. This time with a 9 Genetic Distance. The match is one John Faree Follis. This now makes that I have 8 relatively close 111 Y-DNA marker matches.


And the surnames of the individuals realizing the match are Fallis/Follis, Robinson, Seymour, and Ware. Not one Smith. 3 Fallis/Follis; 1 Robinson; 3 Seymour; and 1 Ware.

Does this mean that there is possibility that my Smith name may have been something else in a time long ago and faraway?

According to the Family Tree DNA Y-DNA TiP Report, and using the information of matching the latest John Faree Follis there may be a probability of 82.61% that in 12 generations, (that’s 12 generations backwards) we, John Faree Follis and myself, Jim Smith may have shared a common ancestor.


And how long is a generation?

From a male perspective it may be a “generational interval of 31 to 38 years”. (ISOGG, “How long is a generation? Science provides an answer”, by Donn Devine). 

If I use the average of about 34 ½ years my calculation would be that about 12 generations back or about 414 years in the past John Faree Follis and I may have an 82.61% chance of sharing a common male ancestor. That means that maybe around 1603 there may be a Follis who could have been a Smith or a Smith who could have been a Follis. (I think.)

And in our Y-DNA 111-marker matching, between John Faree Follis and me there is a 9 Genetic Distance, according to the tests as provided by Family Tree DNA.

The definition of Genetic Distance used by Family Tree DNA “is the number of differences, or mutations, between two sets of results. A genetic distance of zero means there are no differences in the results being compared against one another, i.e., an exact match.

From my results I have noticed that there is one Jeffrey L. Smith and we match at the 37-Marker test of our Y-DNA. According to Family Tree DNA there is a probability of 89.16% that 12 generations back, about 1603, we may have shared a common ancestor. I wonder if Jeffery L. Smith has ever considering completing the 111-Marker test?

Currently and according to the FTDNA results there are 25 Smith matches at the 12-Marker testing and only two others, excluding myself have completed the 111-Marker testing. All-things-being-equal a possible matching to these two other Smiths falls away considerably as neither of them match my results at the 10 or less Genetic Difference.

If you are a Smith and you may know that you descended from Great-Great-Great Grandfather James Smith please feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com if you are thinking about testing your Y-DNA.

And if you know of anyone else in the family who may be interested in receiving my updates regarding the search please let me know their email mail so I can include them. Who knows, more than my two eyes and my one aging brain definitely may help with this continued search.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 913bf – Brunhammer Fürst – 1818 GGGGG-Grandmother Anne Marie Bruhamer's Passing

22 September 2017

Good Day,

Last night flipping through electronic pages of the digitized images of Baptism, Marriage, and Death registers I was able to find the Death Registration for GGGGG-(5-times)-Great-Grandmother Anne Marie (née Fürst) Bruhamer. She passed away at one of her son's home in Hochstatt, Haut-Rhin at 10:00 pm on the 25th of July 1818. The son who reported the passing was GGGG-(4-times)-Great-Grandfather Sébastien.

GGGGG-Great-Grandmother Anne Marie was 68 years old at the time of her death, as it was reported, and further, she was recorded as the widow of GGGGG-(5-times)-Great-Grandfather Conrad Bruhamer.

Here is the entry as recorded in French.



This is my attempt at transcribing the document. I am having a bit of a problem transcribing, reading, the actual name of the street of GGGG-Great-Grandfather Sébastien's home.

1818
Fürst Anne Marie
Acte de décés
L'an dix huit cent dix huit, le vingt six du mois de Juilletà huit heures du matin, pardevant nous Maire officier de l'étatCivil de la Commune de Hochstatt, Canton d'Altkirch,Département du Haut Rhin, sont comparus SébastienBruhamer Journalieur et Jean Adam Bay les deux domiciliésen cette commune les quels nous ont déclaré que hierà dix heures du soir, Anne Marie Fürst ageé de soixanteet huit ans veuve de Conrad Bruhamer du dit lieu, estdécédé en la maison de son fils rue dit chälhergrasset ont les déclaurons signé avec nous le présent actede déçés, apres que Lecture leui eu a êté faite.


And my translation -

1818

Fürst Anne Marie

Death certificate

In the year eighteen hundred and eighteen, the twenty-sixth of July at eight o'clock in the morning, before us Mayor of the Civil Registry of the Commune of Hochstatt, Canton of Altkirch, Department of the Upper Rhine, appeared Sébastian Bruhamer Journalier and Jean Adam Bay, both of whom lived in this commune, told us that yesterday at ten o'clock in the evening Anne Marie Fürst, aged sixty-eight, widow of Conrad Bruhamer, died at her son's house châlhergrass(?) street and have declared that they signed with us the present deed, after the Reading it has been made.

Here is the Brunhammer Research Work Sheet highlighting GGGGG-Great-Grandmother Anne Marie (née Fürst) Bruhamer.



The genealogy research and search for ancestors and descendants continue.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, without having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com if you would like to receive an invite to the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 912b – Brunhammer Plus – An Updated Brunhammer Genealogy Ancestry Chart

21 September 2017

Good Day,

PC’s back in working order. It appeared that one of the voltage spikes that occurred during the wait for the electricity to come back on after the storm may have fried a couple of circuit boards.


I've been asked by a number of you if they could see my ancestry charting of the family tree. At times it can be somewhat confusing when one has to move through a number of pages on the PC screen or follow a distinct family line back in time.

I have re-created an ancestry chart using GenoPro. I like using GenoPro because it allows me to move persons, aka ancestors and descendants, around quick freely. I find it not as restrictive as some other software programs that are available.

"GenoPro makes it easy to build simple family trees, but it also allows you to easily and quickly build complex family trees. Not all families are simple."

I have now created a Brunhammer chart using GenoPro. Even beginning with Andy's parents, Eugene John and Myrtle Frances Gertrude (née Doherty) Brunhammer, I still have to recreate the Brunhammer family, going back to Andy's 8-times Great-Grandparents, using two visible images. And this work-chart is by no strength of the imagination complete.

Here's the first page, to be continued on the second page.




Here's the second page -


The square boxes represent male ancestors and the circles, females. I have used a blue border with a yellow fill-in to represent Andy's bloodline. Andy's generation, as well as his nieces and nephews, and grand-nephews and grand-nieces are not included in either of the two images. I will not publically publish any information regarding any living relative.

Regarding his grand-nephews and grand-nieces, you can add 2 more levels of greats to a possibility of 10-Great-Grandparents.

Just my observations.

And now onto search for more pieces of evidence.

The genealogy research and search for ancestors and descendants continue.

Family connections can be seen on the family tree, the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree. If you would like access to the tree you will need an invitation from me. You can sign up with Ancestry, and from what I understand, without having to take a membership subscription. Feel free to contact me at jsmith58@gmail.com if you would like to receive an invite to the Brunhammer Doherty Family Tree.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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