Part 426j – Smith Robertson Genealogy – 1735 Baptism & Birth – GGGGG-Grandaunt Jean Claude Jullie

Evening,

Shades of e. e. cummings. It is somewhat taxing, not that it would not take too, too much to do that to the grey mush between my ears, but the scribe who entered the baptism registration of my ggggg-grandaunt Jean Claude Jullie must have had an earlier version of a texting unit.

In my research of documents and data in the search of my genealogy and ancestors I have to be cognizant to the idea that not every scribe or recorder is going to write entries in the format that I am so accustomed. In this case the scribe had decided not to capitalize proper names and words… and that, most definitely throws me off my exercise of translating. I am so glad that I had to take a semester of e. e. cummings at some point in my educational past. Could we say that he was a texter, shy the mobile unit, before the time?

Again from the FHL collection “Registres paroissiaux de Sainte-Marie de Sarlat (Dordogne), 1618-1791” I found the baptism registration, dated 26 March of ggggg-grandaunt Jean Claude Jullie, daughter of gggggg-grandparents Pierre Julie and Margueritte Escouveyrou.

I have copied the image of the acte de baptism, baptism registration from the microfilm FHL [1415272].

My transcription –

Le 26 mars 1735 a été baptize par moy ∫ou∫∫igné jean claude Jullie fille naturalle et legitieme de pierre jullie et margueritte escoubeyrou conjoins qui _____ hier parrain _____ jean murat _____ et marraine claude jullie.

Murat _____ _____

My translation –

On March 26, 1735 was baptized by me the undersigned, Jean Claude Jullie, natural and legitimate daughter, of Pierre Jullie, and Marguerite Escoubeyrou, who jointly sponsor_____ _____ yesterday Jean Murat, _____ and godmother Claude Jullie.

Murat _____ _____

I had to make sure that I could read key points to ensure that I make an informed judgment regarding the information of any specific person. In this case, when I initially looked at the baptism registration I read the name “Jean Claude Jullie”. In my learning, “Jean Claude” is a masculine name. But as indicated in the registration the child being baptized is the “fille naturalle et legitime”, the natural and legitimate daughter. “Jean Claude” is a female. She is my ggggg-grandaunt and not my ggggg-granduncle. My mistake… Lesson learned… make sure to read the total as best as possible.

Enjoy,

Jim

-----

Bonsoir,

Dans l'esprit de e. e. cummings. Il est un peu taxer, non pas qu'il ne prendrait pas trop, trop à faire que de labouillie grise entre mes oreilles, mais le scribe qui inscrit l'acte debaptême de mon arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière-grand-tante Jean Claude Jullie doit avoir eu une version antérieure d'une unité de SMS.

Dans ma recherche de documents et de données, à la recherche de ma généalogie et des ancêtres, je dois être conscients, à l'idée, qui n'est pas tout scribe ou un en registreur, va écrire des entrées dans le format, que je suis tellement habituée . Dans ce cas, le scribe avait décidé de ne pas tirer parti, les noms propres et les mots... et que, très certainement, me jette hors de mon exercice de traduction. Je suis tellement heureuse, que je devais suivre un semestre de e. e. cummings, à un moment donné dans mon passé d'enseignement. Pourrions-nous dire qu'il était un texteur, sans l'unité mobile, avant le temps?

Provenant de la collection FHL "Registres paroissiaux deSainte-Marie de Sarlat (Dordogne), 1618-1791" J'ai trouvé l'acte de baptême, daté du 26 Mars degrand-arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière-grand-tante JeanClaude Jullié, fille du arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière-grands-parents Pierre Julie, et Margueritte Escouveyrou.

J'ai copié l'image de l'acte de baptême de la FHLmicrofilms [1415272].

Mon transcription –

Le 26 mars 1735 a été baptize par moy ∫ou∫∫igné jean claude Jullie fille naturalle et legitieme de pierre jullie et margueritte escoubeyrou conjoins qui _____ hier parrain _____ jean murat _____ et marraine claude jullie.

Murat _____ _____

Ma traduction –

On March 26, 1735 was baptized by me the undersigned, Jean Claude Jullie, natural and legitimate daughter, of Pierre Jullie, and Marguerite Escoubeyrou, who jointly sponsor_____ _____ yesterday Jean Murat, _____ and godmother Claude Jullie.

Murat _____ _____

Je devais m'assurer que je pouvais lire les points clés,afin de s'assurer que je fais, un jugement éclairé quant aux informations, de toute personne en particulier. Dans ce cas, quand j'ai d'abord examiné, lors du baptême actede, j'ai lu le nom de "Jean Claude Jullie". Dans mon apprentissage, "Jean Claude" est un nom masculin. Mais,comme indiqué dans l'enregistrement, l'enfant d'être baptisé, est la "fille naturalle et legitime". "Jean Claude" est une femelle. Elle est mon arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière-grand-tante et non pas mon arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière-grand-oncle. Mon erreur ...Leçon apprise ... assurez-vous de lire la totalité du mieux que possible.

Bon chance,

Jim

Click here to continue reading...

Part 422j – Smith Robertson Genealogy – July Marriage Index – Sainte-Marie de Sarlat – Hace frío

Morning,

The Florida sun is shining. The Florida skies are blue. From my seat at my PC it looks like another gorgeous Florida day in the sunshine. Friggin’ wrong! It’s bloody cold… and that’s with a capital “C” and capital “D” – ColD!!! This is not the tourist mecca of sandy beaches and lapping waves of warm bliss. It’s the land of granular snow and hyperthermatic aqua, with a Spanish accent. Hace frío!!! If the damn weather forecasters can make up words like “radiational cooling”, I can make up my own, as in “hyperthermatic aqua”. And I even have a definition, all scientific and such. “Hyperthermatic aqua” is that tone of blue one’s lips turn just before they turn purple. (The inserted image is of some Florida locals at Clearwater beach.)

Returning to my genealogy quest to find my ancestors on the branches and limbs and my Family Tree, I thought that I should present the page of the Index of Marriages from which I have found at least two indications of marriage registrations of my July connections. This image of the Index page is downloaded from Item 2 of the microfilm FHL [1415457].

The image is from the “Registres parissiaux de Sainte-Marie de Sarlat (Dordogne), 1618-1791”. From my understanding this collection may cover Indexes of marriage registrations from the year 1644 to 1791, and not necessarily in consecutive sequence. Some years are missing in the Index.

In my attempt to search for any marriage records of my July Family Line, I have tried to ferret out each entry, albeit acte de marriage, that may have some inkling of a name that may resemble the name July. You will notice that on the inserted image of the Index page there are three entries. Based on my research and collected documentation I can provide some semblance of credibility to the possibility that at least two of the marriage entries are affiliated to my July Family Line. The two that are definite possibilities, and I have presented, as previous Postings: Parts 418j; 419j; 420j; and 421j, are the two marked with a red “X”. They are, transcribed:

Pierre Julie et Marguerite ----- 11 7bre 1731, and

Pierre Jully et Magdelaine Vaurigeau } tous _____ _____ ----- 23 8bre 1753

The 3rd and the unknown entry is, transcribed:

Jacques Julie et Jeanne Taverne? tous _____ _____ ----- 13 avril 1711

All-things-being-equal Jacques Julie could be a relative but I have not found any immediate evidence at this time to prove the case. Based on the dates of the entries Jacques Julie and Jeanne Taverne? could have been the generation preceding gggggg grand-father Pierre Julie of the 1731 marriage entry.

Just my thoughts. And I continue.

Jim

Click here to continue reading...

Part 421j – Smith Robertson Genealogy – 1731 Marriage – Piere Jullie and Marguerite

Morning,

I would never have believed that I would have ever been able to find the documentation relevant and necessary to re-construct the branches of my genealogy and family tree.

This next transcription work is the best that I can make out, but I can honestly say that there appears to be enough information that provides confirmation that this Acte de Marriage of 1731 is pertinent to my July Family line.

The image is a page of the Parish Registers of Sainte-Marie of Sarlat. Again there are no page numbers to cross-reference. My four points of recognition are the names Piere, Jullie, Marguerite, and Sarlat. The actual date of the Acte de Marriage is 11 September 1731, and this provides credence that the bride and groom so registered is that of gggggg-grandparents Piere and Marguerite Jullie.

I have downloaded the image from the microfilm FHL [1415272].

And here is my attempted transcription. Any assistance would be appreciated. I would like to be able to read the word in the first line following gggggg-grandfather Piere Jullie’s name. All-things-being-equal it could be a word relaying his occupation… and that is only my guess.

Le 11 Septembre 1731 ont recu la benediction nuptialle Pierre Jullie _____
et Marguerite native de _____ _____ et habitante de Sarlat en presence de Guillaume
Leceniar? et Francois _____ _____ _____ _____ leur a imparti la benediction
nuptialle.

The following is my brief and attempted translation.

On September 11, 1731 they have received the wedding blessing Piere Jullie, _____ and Marguerite native of _____ _____ and resident of Sarlat in the presence of Guillaume Leceniar? and Francois _____ _____ _____ _____ has ascribed the wedding blessing.

Enjoy,

Jim

-----

Bonjour,

Je n'aurais jamais cru que je n'aurais jamais été capable de trouver les documents pertinents et nécessaires à la re-construction des branches de ma généalogie et l'arbre de la famille.

Ce travail de transcription suivante est le meilleur que je peux faire, mais je peux honnêtement dire que il semble y avoir suffisamment d'informations qui permet de confirmer que cette Acte de mariage de 1731 est pertinent de ma lignée familiale de July.

L'image est une page du registre paroissial de Sainte-Marie de Sarlat. Encore une fois il n'ya pas de numéros de page pour faire une référence croisée. Mes quatre points de la reconnaissance sont les noms Piere, Jullie, Marguerite, et Sarlat. La date effective de l'Acte de mariage est de 11 Septembre 1731, et cette offre créance que la mariée et le marié ainsi enregistré est celui du arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière-arrière- arrière-grand-parents Piere et Marguerite Jullie.

J'ai téléchargé l'image du microfilm FHL [1415272]. Et voici ma transcription tenté. Toute aide serait appréciée.Je voudrais être capable de lire le mot dans la première ligne après le nom de mon arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- arrière- grand-père Piere Jullie. Toutes choses étant égales par ailleurs, il pourrait être un mot relayer son métier ... et ce n'est que je pense.

Le 11 Septembre 1731 ont recu la benediction nuptialle Pierre Jullie _____
et Marguerite native de _____ _____ et habitante de Sarlat en presence de Guillaume
Leceniar? et Francois _____ _____ _____ _____ leur a imparti la benediction
nuptialle.

Ce qui suit est une traduction bref et tenté.

On September 11, 1731 they have received the wedding blessing Piere Jullie, _____ and Marguerite native of _____ _____ and resident of Sarlat in the presence of Guillaume Leceniar? and Francois _____ _____ _____ _____ has ascribed the wedding blessing.

Bon chance,

Jim

Click here to continue reading...