Showing posts with label Satzger. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Satzger. Show all posts

Part 927ks – 1734 Birth Registration of 5-Times Great-Grandmother Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz

14 November 2018

Good Day,

Well, I am certainly glad that there are more than one set of eyes reviewing this work.

I was able to find the 1734 Birth Registration of 5-times Great--Grandmother Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz in the Durlach directory. And the example of penmanship is certainly a positive reason for us to continue teaching cursive writing in schools today.

Here’s an image of the pages. The Birth Registration is highlighted.


And now the 1734 Birth Registration.


Thank you, Gert, for helping me with the transcription and translation.

As you can see this one is extremely difficult.

An – 1734 – Year - 1734

d. 25. Maria Sophia
Philipp Hein[rich] Satzger, Dreher [=turner]
Maria Elisabetha

Gevatte[rn] [=godparents:]H. .. Lary [?], fürstl. Chirurgus [=princely surgeon]Frau Maria Dorothea ...gin [Satzgerin?]
Peter [?] Conrad [?] Schroeder [Schrader?], Pe[rücken]Macher [? (wigmaker)] cum
uxorem [=and his wife] Maria Sophia


Facts and Clues –

Fact –

1. 5-times Great-Grandmother Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz was christened on 25 November 1734 in Durlach, Bavaria.

2. Her parents are identified as 6-times Great-Grandfather Philipp Heinrich Satzger and 6-times Great-Grandmother Maria Elisabetha.

3. 6-times Great-Grandmother Maria Elisabetha’s surname does not appear to have been included in the Registration.

4. 6-times Great-Grandfather Philipp Heinrich Stazger’s occupation can be read as a “turner”. See Part 925ks at https://agenealogyhunt.blogspot.com/2018/11/part-925ks-1762-marriage-of-5-times.html

Clue

5. The assumption is that 6-times Great-Grandparents Philipp Heinrich and Maria Elisabetha Satzger may have had other children.

Fact –

6. I was able to find 5 more Birth Registrations for 5 more children of 6-times Great-Grandparents Philipp Heinrich and Maria Elisabetha Satzger.

7. 6-times Great-Grandmother Maria Elisabetha’s name was included on the additional 5 Birth Registrations in various forms. These included Maria Anna and Anna Elisabetha. 6-times Great-Grandfather Philipp Heinrich’s name appears to be consistent on all the 5 other Birth Registrations.

8. 6-times Great-Grandmother Maria Anna Elisabetha’s surname was included on the other Birth Registration. It was either Hager or Hagerin.

Fact/Clue

9. It appears that, unless there are other children born before 5-times Great-Grandmother Maria Sophia (née Stager) Katz, before 1734, she may have been the eldest child.

10. It may be possible that 6-times Great-Grandparents Philipp Heinrich and Maria Anna Elisabetha (née Hager) Satzger may have been married sometime in the early 1730s.

Here is the updated Brunhammer Katz Descendant Chart.



The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 925ks – 1762 Marriage of 5-Times Great-Grandparents Johann Friedrich and Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz

09 November 2018

Good Day,

You know when a genealogist hoots and hollers when s/he believes s/he has found a possible critical document that fits right into a family tree.

And yes, that is what happened last night.

Even though a Family History film is denoted as completely indexed, one should not, not search through the digitized images to hunt for a document. Case in point this 1762 Katz/Satzger Marriage registration.

Here’s is what I found.


And here is a cleaned-up copy whereas the 1762 Marriage Registration was easier to read, transcribe and translate.


Source Reference: Family History Library, Film, FHL #1238217, Items 6-9; Image 938 of 1169.

And here are the

Transcription –

1762 – Durlach condicio

Jun

"d. 15. Johann Friedrich Katz, neuangehender Bürger und Seiler alhier,
weil. Johann Katzen, gewesenen Bürgers und Färbers allhier,
hinterbliebener ehel. erzeugter lediger Sohn; und Maria Sophia,
weil. Philipp Heinrich Satzgers, gewesenen Bürgers und Drehers
allhier, hinterlaßene ehel. ledige Tochter."

Translation –

1762 Durlach marriage

Jun

On the 15th [were married] Johann Friedrich Katz, prospective local citizen and roper, surviving legitimate unmarried son of the late Johann Katz, former local citizen and dyer; and Maria Sophia, surviving legitimate unmarried daughter of the late Philipp Heinrich Satzger, former local citizen and turner.

Facts and Clues –

Fact –

1. GGGGG-Grandparents Johann Friedrich and Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz were married on 15 June 1762 in Durlach, Bavaria.

Fact –

2. GGGGG-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz’s status and occupation is listed as “local citizen and roper”. This the is same information as discovered on previous documents.

Facts/Clues

3. 5-times Great--Grandfather Johann Friedrich’s father is listed as 6-times Great-Grandfather Johann Katz.

4. 5-times Great-Grandmother Maria Sophia’s father is listed as 6-time Great-Grandfather Philipp Heinrich Satzger.

5. Both 6-times Great-Grandfathers Johann Katz and Philipp Heinrich Satzger are entered of having passed away before the date of 15 June 1762.

Fact –

6. 5-times Great-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz was born on 24 Mar 1763, 9 months and 1 week after his parents, 6-times Great Grandfather Johann and Maria Sophia (née Satzger) Katz were married.

Here is an updated Brunhammer Katz Descendant Chart.


The search continues.  And I just keep on going.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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Part 924bk - 1763 Birth and Baptism of GGGG-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz

07 November 2018

Good Day,

Just some quick notes – “GGGG” and “GGGGG” are abbreviations of “4-times Great” and “5-times Great”. These Greats are being used with reference to Andy. You may have to add another 1 Great or 2 Greats to determine your relationship.

Well it looks like the sources and the documentation are just waiting to be found. All-things-being-equal it appears that we have been able to locate the Baptism and Birth Registration of GGGG-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz.

Here is the copy of the 26 March 1763 Baptism Registration. The source of the document is from the Evangelische Kirche Durlach (A. Durlach) Family History Library FHL 1238229.


The facts and the clues.


Fact –

GGGG-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz was born 24 March 1763 and baptized on the 26th in Durlach.

Fact -

His parents are listed as Johann Friedrich Katze and Sophie Satzgerin.

Fact/Clue

Johann Friedrich Katze and Sophie Satzgerin are Andy’s 5-times Great-Grandparents.

Fact –

In Bavarian dialect surnames of women sometimes are formed by adding the ending "-in", used in standard High German to indicate noun variants for women or items of grammatical feminine gender. Therefore GGGGG-Grandmother Sophie’s surname could be read as Satzgerin or Satzger.

Fact –

Durlach was a town in what was considered Bavaria.

Fact –

4-times Great-Grandfather Johann Friedrich was named after his father, 5-times Great-Grandfather Johann Friedrich.

Fact/Clue

In the right column there appears to have been added the date of GGGG-Grandfather Johann Friedrich Katz’s passing on 26 January 1819, at the age of 55 years.

Fact/Clue

5-times Great-Grandfather Johann Friedrich’s status and occupation is entered as “local citizen and roper”

Here is a combination of the transcription and the translation –

March 26, 1763

Child: Johann Friedrich geb. d. 24. ej. - born on the 24th of the same (month)

[right column:] Surname: Katze, + d. 26. Jan. 1816 - died on Jan. 26, 1819

Parents: Johann Friedrich Katze, Bürger und Seiler allhier [=local citizen and roper], Sophie, geb. Satzgerin [=née Satzger]

Godparents:

H. Johann Jacob Kuhn, Post-Schreiber allhier, und Cathrine Auguste, uxor;
Johann Sebastian Kreißinger [?], Bürger und Pflugwirth allhier, et uxor, Franziska –
Mr. Johann Jacob Kuhn, local clerk/secretary of the post, and his wife Cathrine Auguste; Johann Sebastian Freißinger [?], might be a spelling variant of Freisinger/Freysinger], local citizen and innkeeper of the Pflug [The Plow Inn], and his wife Franziska

Thanks to Gert who assisted with the transcribing and the translation of the entry. I’m still struggling along with the recognizing of the script and the language.

Gert noted that there is a very strong coincidence and that there is a current restaurant with the name of "Judy's Pflug" in Karlsruhe-Durlach, see: https://judys-pflug.de/ . This may have been the same as to the which seems to be the former "Pflug", The Plow Inn as noted in the listing of the Godparents.

I've added GGGGG-Grandparents Johann Friedrich and Sophie (née Satzger) Katz to the Brunhammer Katz Descendant Tree.




And the search continues.

Have you considered how far back in time we could go? And what we can learn.

If you have any comment, question, thought, idea please feel free to contact me via email at A Genealogy Hunt or jsmith58@gmail.com.

Regards,

Jim
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